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South Kalos Pokedex Leak by KrocF4 South Kalos Pokedex Leak by KrocF4
Real or fake? Let me know what you think.

722-743: South Central Kalos
744-765: South Mountain Kalos
766-787: South Coastal Kalos
788-790: Legendary Pokemon
791: Mythical Pokemon

Against:
The original leak uses Kanji which is commonly used by Japanese fans.
16 new type combinations.
Minimal reuse of earlier concepts.
Very popular Fakemon share many characteristics.
The new game hasn't even been announced yet, although it expected to be released in September (GF's gear month).

Trivia:
722, 723: apple maggot, fruit fly
724, 725: cockroaches
726, 727: wild boars
728, 729: water buffalo (could be hippocampi)
730, 731: fairy ring
732, 733, 734: ittan-momen
735, 736, 737: Sigmund Freud's Es, Ich, Überich
738, 739: snow owls
740, 741: pepper
742, 743: probably Chinese story about the spear that could pierce any shield and the shield that could not be pierced by any spear
744, 745: beaded lizards

746, 747: chimney, hot spring
748, 749, 750: Oxygen, Hydrogen and Water
755: locust or weta
756, 757: sun bears
762: spider and monkey combination
766, 767: hummingbirds
770: Dragon type Eeveelution
775, 776, 777: cherub, ophan, seraph
780, 781: raccoon
785, 786, 787: from sundial to modern clocks and from seconds to minutes, to hours
790: Indian volcano
Most of these translations come from RayquazaMaster
Check the comments.


The layout is made by me, the information is from 4chan that probably got it from 2ch.
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SpireEx Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Maybe it's fake but I hope it to be a real one:la:....who knows :shrug:
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Hero-T Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2016
I find it plausible, because there are things that normal fans wouldn't think up, and things that Gamefreak would totally do. Like the Ghost string evolving to a sheet and then a bed. That' somehting Gamefreak would totally do.

The only thing we have right now that could disprove it is that Sun and Moon don't really sound like Gen 6.5 games. But it's still entirely possible. I'm not ruling it out.

I will say that if this is real, I'll be happy.
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SodaDog Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2016  Student Artist
I have a feeling that we're going to Italy!
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KingisNitro Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The weirdest thing to me about this whole list, that no one mentioned in the comments for some reason, is the complete lack of new Starter Pokemon. It doesn't prove anything, but it's really weird imo. With every new region to explore, there's a new set of starters. Even with interlinked regions as Kanto and Johto, new starters were introduced. If there was suddenly a new region for players to discover, that'd be adjacent to Kalos, I think it'd receive new starters as well. I am aware this doesn't have to be 100% the case, it's just a trend that's always been here and it's weird when it's missing.
Besides that, dunno about #735 E-Es-P and #748-750 H-Gen, Oxygen and H2Oter, those names are just really weird (I could add #779 Vaniking and #782 Qingying with the apostrophes in their Japanese names, a phenomenon unseen before, but I guess that doesn't mean anything).
Also some of the names wouldn't fit standard 5 Katakana symbols, but that rule's apparently been lifted so never mind.

Don't really believe these are real, but if they are, some of those type combinations are sure a thing to look forward to (really hyped for Normal/Ghost tbh and #785-787 seem great too so far).
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KrocF4 Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2016
No one mentioned it because they read the description. It's still Kalos, the starters are Chespin, Fennekin and Froakie. Skiddo has an apostrophe in its Japanese name (Me'ēkuru). In X&Y the Katakana limit has been raised to 6.
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KingisNitro Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Implying I didn't read it. I've actually addressed the starters not being a definite reason and the katakana limit in my own comment.
It's still weird, why would you expand a dex like that on a region that already exists. "It's still Kalos" is the problem for me. Why have a dex with legendaries in the middle (i.e. the whole Kalos Pokedex, in National Dex order)? That seems like a very poor solution to me. You can expand Kalos dex, like the dexes (dices?) have been before, but just appending them to the already established National Dex seems really weird. Role of the starter is to be the first Pokemon. If you think you discovered the whole region, and suddenly realize uh-oh, there's apparently more, and start documenting them, why not find new Pokemon to fit as starters? Just like it was in Johto??? It just seems as a really lazy solution to me. I am not saying this reason is 100% valid but it doesn't seem like something they would do.
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KrocF4 Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2016
I don't know. I'm personally not bothered by this because I really don't give a shit about these patterns since GF breaks patterns in every Generation. Also, if this is true, it will be explained. You will get to know the reasons behind the region/dex split.
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SpeedXaaa Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Definitely interesting, despite being most likely (99%) fake. Like the whole Pokemon Plus and Minus rumor, I'm going to keep tabs on this. ;o I mean, right after the XY trailers were released, someone on Pokebeach leaked a LOT of information and most of it turned out to be true. I very highly doubt this is the case though. xD

But it is cool when you look back, how much of that information that was leaked back before XY turned out to be true. Such as:
:bulletred: Fairy-type, and its type weaknesses, strengths, and immunity
:bulletorange: Sylveon being Fairy and reclassification of other Pokemon to fairy
:bulletyellow: "Mewtwo has two new formes, not just one. Both are activated via items."
:bulletgreen: "The Starter final evolutions are Fire/Psychic, Grass/Dark, and Water/Fighting." Though the Grass and Water ones turned out to be false, I believe this person corrected themselves shortly after. (Wait, no, actually they had gotten it right the first time but incorrectly corrected themselves afterwards)
:bulletblue: The mentioning of dual-typed attacks. While it mentioned "a few," when it only turned out to be one, this was still at least half-accurate.
:bulletpurple: "There will be a new type of battling style that Flying-type Pokemon and Pokemon with Levitate can participate in."
:bulletpink: Y
ou will be able to see a Pokemon’s EVs at a certain in-game facility. You will be able to boost the EVs through mini-games.
:bulletwhite: Pancham's evolution (including the name) and how it evolves
:bulletblack: The prediction of Inkay, Malamar, Espurr, and Meowstic, along with how Inkay evolves.
:bulletred: The moves Belch and Draining Kiss. Belch's specifications were correct, but not Draining Kiss's.

Sorry, I know I'm digressing but I've just been URGING to say something about this since XY was released xD
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KrocF4 Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2016
Don't you dare compare this to the Plus and Minus rumors. Please, just don't. If it turns out to be fake it will still 100 times more imaginative than PM.
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SpeedXaaa Featured By Owner Edited Feb 22, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It was only a mention. That wasn't even the main point of my comment. >_>
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IngenRanger Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2016
Has the person you got this list from leaked anything else that could verify that they have official information?
I followed your link to their deviantart account and they have made a LOT of fakemons.
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KrocF4 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2016
I think you misunderstood, RayquazaMaster only helped with the translations. The list didn't come from DeviantArt.
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Torus333 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2016
doubt there will be new Pokemon and a new region for Pokemon Z
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eeveelutioner Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2016
I hope it's real only because of the dragon type eeveelution <3
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Robinsu Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
I am sorry to say, but this would be a fake.
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KrocF4 Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2016
Strong argument. Why?
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Robinsu Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
Well, the type combinations look so unreal. I mean, some Pokemon lose their unique typing upon evolution.
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KrocF4 Featured By Owner Edited Feb 16, 2016
So does Surskit.
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Robinsu Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
Well, Surskit may be the only exception.


Especially if Mega Masquerain becomes Bug/Dragon.
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KrocF4 Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2016
Well, that proves it.
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KrocF4 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2016
To everyone I replied: I'm not saying that these are definitely real, I just generally find flaws in your reasonings. I point them out, so you might be able to find some other flaws too. All of your reasons are justifiable. Have a good day :D
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Flurmimon Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hm, it looks fake for me because of the many strange type combinations and names. While I wish a non-legendary fire/water Pokémon, it sounds not right for me. I'd rather be careful with this infos.
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KrocF4 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2016
It's not anything new, though. Lugia, Jirachi, Diancie and Hoopa all had type combos that were previously not in the game. Yet, they were released with regular Pokemon having the same type combos, automatically not making them unique. (Natu, Xatu, Beldum, Metang, Metagross, Carbink, Inkay and Malamar)
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Flurmimon Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It may be true some type combos are unique and I want more unique type combos like a Ice/Bug Pokémon, but... I'm just skeptical.
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zeroxros7 Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2016
Fake because why would they introduce new legendaries for a region that already had its legendaries established. I would be more inclined to believe this if it had been listed as the pokedex for gen 7's region. Also the fact that Magiana is included combined with the fact that Magiana was revealed very recently gives support to it being fake as Magiana is most likely the standard next gen pokemon revealed in the movie that airs before the next gen games come out like Lugia, Latios and Latias, Lucario, Zoroark, and Mega Mewtwo Y were before it.
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KrocF4 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2016
It's the other part of the region that had been unexplored before. A Gen 6 game is yet to come whether you like it or not, so I disagree with Gen 7 being introduced this early. Magearna is a lot different from Lucario, Zoroark and the others. The anime has already confirmed that it's a legendary and that there is only one.
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zeroxros7 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2016
All the ones I listed were pokemon from the next gen games that were revealed in the movie that premiered before the next gen games came out acting as a preview for said games and the preview pokemon is not required to be a legendary and it is not unheard of for there to be two movies with preview pokemon as gen 4 had both lucario and manaphy so they could have easily decided to do a very early preview to show that they have started to work on gen 7. Also if a third gen 6 game comes out it would be focused on Zygarde and you can't have a game focused on Zygarde with new pokemon coming after it especially if the they also include new legendaries because then it really takes the focus away from Zygarde. The idea of a third game is to improve the story introduced in the first two games and also improve the third member of the legendary trio and this list goes against all of that so unless they suddenly decided to throw out the plan they have been using since gen 3, which is highly unlikely, this is fake.
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KrocF4 Featured By Owner Edited Feb 16, 2016
Why would it take away the focus from Zygarde? Every legendary has its own arc in every game. The games are not entirely revolved around the box legendaries, they are just a part of the story. The new legendaries' story could be after-game exclusive, like the kami trio's. I don't understand how this list goes against improving the first two games but OK. I understand where you're coming from though, and I'm still not saying this is real. Also, don't forget this is the 20th anniversary of Pokemon, we could get something bigger.
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TacetTempestas Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2016  Student Traditional Artist
I'd say fake, but heres hoping its real. Some types and concepts look neat.
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CraniaMania Featured By Owner Edited Feb 14, 2016
This seems fake to me. Some of those names are really unusual for the Japanese naming scheme; "H20ter" would sound very awkward pronounced in Japanese, "Kyojishin" literally means the same as its species name (which is an odd one to begin with), and I don't recall any instance of Japanese names combining Japanese and English, like with "Desertkage".

There's also the Fire/Water one; you'd think they'd have that be exclusive to Volcanion within the generation to keep it special.
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KrocF4 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2016
They had the Pokemon=Species in Gen 1 too. I'll look into the "Desertkage" situation, though.

Hoopa is Dark/Psychic, we got Inkay and Malamar. Diancie is Rock/Fairy, we got Carbink.
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KingisNitro Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Regarding this "desertkage", or as original comment says, "I don't recall any instance of Japanese names combining Japanese and English", there's actually plenty. To mention some, let's go with Nidoqueen/Nidoking (Nidokuin/Nidokingu), and if those are not good for whatever reason, Psyduck is Kodakku (ko-duck), Magikarp is Koikingu (koi-king), Omastar is Omustaa (om-star, om being from "omugai", Nautilus)... the list goes on.

May I ask for an instance of Pokemon=Species, though? I can't seem to find any.
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CraniaMania Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2016
Okay, but have you seen the English trailer for Volcanion? They were hyping it up to be "the first ever Pokémon that's both Fire and Water-type!", as if that was something that made it particularily special. I know they said "first", not "only", but it would seem a little weird for them to put such an emphasis on that fact only to go: "Oh, well, there's a regular Pokémon with the same type anyway."
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KrocF4 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2016
Of course, they want to "hype" up something, what else can you hype up about Volcanion? All the other legendaries had form changes to them. By the way just look at the old reveal videos and you'll see stuff like this there too.
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CraniaMania Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2016
Nothing else, obviously, because they're not going to spoil anything major about Volcanion that we're not supposed to know yet. The way they present it makes it look like the Fire/Water typing is something extremely strange and unique. They never said anything like that about Hoopa or Diancie - because it's not unique to them, I know. But that just proves my point. Why would they make such a big deal about it if some common Pokémon has the same gimmick to it in the next game?
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KrocF4 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2016
I still don't see how they made it such a big deal. It's just a currently unique type combination that fans wanted for a long time.
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CraniaMania Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2016
I don't think they gave it that type just to please the fans or anything. It seems too specific for that.

They're not saying anything major in the trailer other than it's typing, but they're still placing emphasis on it being the first ever Fire/Water Pokémon, as if it's something we're supposed to take note of. And look at all the lore that's been datamined in the games. Put two and two together, and they're clearly pushing the idea that there's something very unusual about Volcanion. Watch the video I just linked, and it'll make sense. I don't see how that's flawed reasoning.
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Frozen-Echo Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2016  Student Digital Artist
Though I believe most of these are fake, 748-750 is such an odd concept. Like from what I read, you have to have both 748 and 749 in your party, and level them both up for them to fuse and evolve into 750. It's such a weird concept that I don't think many Fakemon Artists here have done, so that to me makes me wonder about it's legitimacy. But, I still take all of this with a grain of salt. Thanks for putting this all together with a more visual expression of the Type Combos. It helps a lot. :)
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KrocF4 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2016
GameFreak came up with evolution methods that no Fakemon Artist ever dreamed of. It could be just regular evolution or just a Mantine type of evolution. Level up your 749 with two 748 and you get a 750.

No problem.
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Frozen-Echo Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2016  Student Digital Artist
That is very true. And maybe so. That would be cool. :D
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waterpoke Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2016
I think they're fake the species are odd and the pokemon seem unpleasing but I guess we'll have to wait to see if they're real and awesome!!
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KrocF4 Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2016
These are actually really pleasing Pokemon, that is one of the main concerns.
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waterpoke Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2016
Yeah the names and types seem great now that I look at it LOL. I shouldn't be that stupid to trust species XD. The only ones that I'm not interested in are 748-753. I'm now leaning towards a 50/50 chance if their real or fake. It also helps that their names are all Japanese and will have English names too.
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RayquazaMaster Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
A bit of speculative further info from a guy who's been studying Japanese for around six years. :)

724-725: names indicate them to likely be based on cockroaches ("gokiburi")
726-727: names indicate them to be wild boar ("inoshishi")
728-729: I would bet money these are mythological hippocampi, as the species name is "mizuba", which can mean either watering hole or water horse.
732-734: likely ittan-momen, a Japanese folklore creature that basically is a possessed roll of cotton, with inspiration likely also taken from western sheet ghosts
742-743: almost definitely a reference to the Chinese story about the spear that could pierce any shield and the shield that could not be pierced by any spear
744-745: beaded lizards, one of the few species of venomous lizards
755: likely something to do with locusts; maybe a weta since they can survive being frozen (locust in Japanese I believe is "ina")
756-757: sun bears ("kuma" is bear in Japanese)
762: probably a spider monkey ("kumo" is spider, and it seems to be combined with the English "monkey")
766-767: almost definitely hummingbirds
770: considering the last three Eeveelutions' Japanese names all ending in "-ia", probably a Dragon type Eeveelution
780-781: almost definitely raccoons
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KrocF4 Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2016
Wow, do you mind if I add these? With credits of course.
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RayquazaMaster Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
Sure thing, go right ahead! :D Glad I could be of assistance with these!
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MegastoneXY Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2016  Student Artist
Where did you find it?
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KrocF4 Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2016
I updated the summary, you can find all the info there :)
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DaybreakM Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2016  Student Digital Artist
Source?
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